you forgot to include democrats on the stupid list .............
HERE WAS A POLL QUESTION FOR DEMOCRAT VOTERS
How likely is it that people in the federal government either assisted in the 9/11 attacks or took no action to stop the attacks because they wanted the United States to go to war in the Middle East?" the poll asked.

A full 22.6% of Democrats said it was "very likely." Another 28.2% called it "somewhat likely."
THAT IS 50.8% of democrats

Wow Keith, that's some very obtuse reasoning....so are you saying the Dems are the smart party?? aren't they the ones that gave us that dolt Obama??

Sorry Keith, but I will call your bluff once again. "Keep the ban. It is a breed that has a propensity for killing. If you treat them right and socialize them they may never cause a problem. The gene is there and is not in other dogs. I have been attacked and seen attacks at the Lakewood Dog Park. All of the attacks were by pit bulls or partial pit bulls. You can't stop bad owners from getting dogs but, you can stop potentially bad dogs manifesting their instincts". I can say the same about humans. You did no real research on that issue, and yet you want ME to believe your blog? You should have stopped why you were ahead, oh wait, it must be that special gene that you share with Pits. LOL!!! Have I got a genetic surgeon for you. He would love to put that GENE on a slide and dissect it.

I can't believe I'm reading this!!! Talk about stupid.....!!!!!~

Obama's inspiration - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hPR5jnjtLo&feature=fvwrel

AMEN, Tonto
besides, it was a snake not a dinosaur, duh waddinit???

has this become the huffington post ??? what kind of one sided trash is this... I see the patch finally is becoming like the rest of the biased media outlets

This is one of the most sad articles I have ever seen. People have slid so far into the secular world that I cannot fathom it. I pray to the God that you dishonor so blatently that I have taught my child better, and one day she will also stand up against people like you. My heart is very heavy with your beliefs and I hope one day you are awakened to God before your soul is lost.

What I find surprising is that no one, so far, has commented on how far we have gone down since Reagan. Or how we got there. Or people that ostensibly can dress themselves believe in Creationism. I would entertain another reason for the creep of Creationism or why we have slipped so far in education. But conservatives are not very good at that. So I rest my case.

Keith,

I just have to say the farther I read the more stupid I became. You my friend are officially a moron. Dropping test scores have nothing to do with God or dinosaurs. It has to do with students not studying, parents not giving a damn, and a general laziness of our society. It is not Republicans that support and further expand the entitlement programs that feed and promote laziness and ignorance. That would be the democrats. The fatter, more ignorant, more dependent upon the government they can make the population the more they can control. God or dinosaurs don't care one bit about math or science.
As the Principal in "Billy Madison" said in the movie, " I am now dumber for having read that and may God have mercy on your soul".

You my friend are in need of a psych evaluation. You are so full of crap your eyes are brown. Look at any other country and you will see the academics are more rigorous, school days longer, they track students according to skill levels. If every parent made their child study like they do in China, India, Germany, Denmark etc. our kids test scores would be just as high. Place the blame where it should be- uninvolved parents, lack of discipline, laziness, obesity, entitlement, etc, etc. None of those includes God, Republicans, Democrats, Dinosaurs, black holes, witchcraft, or anything else. Once again you are just another poor schmuck looking to blame someone because your kid still lives at home, or your wife left you, or you haven't achieved much in your own life. Sad, sad, sad.

If Democrats have more STD's than Republicans, what does that indicate? If Republicans give more to charity than Democrats, what does that indicate? If Democrats own more IMacs than Republicans, what does that mean? Since our educational standing is internationally embarrassingly poor and more teachers are Democrat than Republican...what does that tell us?

This above fluffy column/opinion is lacking in critical thinking....and no more meaningful in evaluating 'stupid' than the questions I have tossed forth.

"Since our educational standing is internationally embarrassingly poor and more teachers are Democrat than Republican...what does that tell us?"

Teachers', nor their political preference, have anything to do with this. Our educational system has been behind others for decades. And care to venture a couple of educated guesses as to why that's happened?

All we need to do is look in the mirror. WE are to blame. And so was that ridiculous "No Child Left Behind."

Teachers USED TO have control of their classrooms. Teachers USED TO be able to hold kids back when they didn't pass.

Mr. Dewey you have addressed a critical issue facing our society and worthy of discussion. I agree we need to improve our education system. But I do not agree with your conclusions or where you place the blame. I am well educated in secular universities, military schools and theological schools; so I am one of those conservative, religious people you blame. There are many well educated people, with similar backgrounds as myself. We are not ruining the education system, because we are not even running it, liberals are. People like myself are seeking ways to improve education options so that students can grow in character and knowledge and make American Education great once again. Religion and conservative thinking in no way threatens our education system but can only make it better. Our past results prove this, when religion and conservative thought were allowed to flourish in our education system we produced well educated people of character. Today this is limited at best in public schools as part of the education system and we are reaping what we have sown over the past several decades of failed policies. So how do we improve the education system and where is the problem? It is the teaching of evolutionary theory, secularism and moral relativism in our schools that have produced the current dilemma. Since our society is extremely pluralistic I personally believe school choice that empowers the parents, students and educators is the best solution.

Wow, a lot of information in this rant. First of all if anyone believes a democrat or a republican care more about you or America than their party then you should think again. Also I will confess to being a Christian who believes in a young earth (about 12000 to 15000 years old) I just have a lot of trouble with the so called "evidence" and the thought of billions and billions of years.

Phyllis and David...thanks for your comments. Although this article is more about our education system - religion, evolution and politics were all mentioned....so a discussion on these issues can ensue. I would love to talk evolution and creation anytime with you guys. You can contact me through www.broadmanchurch.org. I agree that the Bible, faith and science do not have to be at odds. That does not mean that humanistic evolution and creationism are compatible though. But religion and science also do not have to be at odds. God is the Creator...that is my presupposition. So I look at science through those lens. A true evolutionist, that is humanistic or secular starts with a presupposition that there is no Creator. Different starting point, different conclusions based on evidence. David, for the record you are not stupid because you are a Christian or because you believe in a young earth. You have more than faith to support your position. Creation scientists are discovering and providing more and more information in support of such a position that stands in stark contrast with evolutionary theories. I think this is a great discussion that needs to be had as part of our education system. We need to look at all angles of origins of life, we need to view all theories. The problem with evolution is it is a closed system...it is the only way...this goes against science. Well it is not the only way and facts are starting to show that creation has validity.

Phyllis...Ecclesiastes 3:11 says, "He (GOD) has made everything appropriate in its time. He has also put eternity in their hearts, but man cannot discover the work God has done from beginning to end." So you are right...God has put a desire in the heart of mankind to seek Him..."He has also put eternity in their hearts." But we also have rebellion in our heart, so we try to defy Him for we cannot fully grasp all that God has done from the beginning to the end. Thanks for the comments.

Phyllis, I am glad you have found your way through this in your own life and you seem open to exploring faith and science which is encouraging to me as a person of faith myself. I don't agree with all your conclusions, but I agree with your approach. You are correct there are things we cannot explain fully...that is where science and faith become exciting to me personally. I love reading all the various books and ideas about Creation that are now available. We should be firm in our positions (on both sides), while remaining open to exploring all evidence and exploring all of God's creation. Creationist are simply scientists who have the presupposition that there is a Creator and they viewing the evidence from that perspective and draw conclusions and form theories based on that. I think you and I are in agreement with that approach to science and faith...we may not agree on all the conclusions as I fall more on the the evidence aligning itself with Biblical History found in the Scriptures; although I acknowledge there is still much more to explore, investigate and explain without being dogmatic or narcissistic. But as a pastor, I teach and preach Creationism with great compassion and conviction. Take care and thanks again for the exchange of ideas.

Well, it looks like by consensus it is now official with no debate. keith dewey is ignorant and arrogant. Thanks for dumming down America you ignorant stupid.

I ask that LAKEWOOD PATCH flag this blog post has HATE SPEECH and force the blogger to resign or post an apology. Without removing this post Lakewood Patch not only condones this ignorant attack against religion but will also force more people who blog here (like me) to issue a response.

Hate speech? what is wrong with you people? This is a blog and it is just a writers opinion. If you don't like it - refute it with intelligence. How about some proof of creationism? Anyone got any?

Tim - you are correct I have no proof of that the world was created randomly, just as the creationists have no proof that God did it. However, to say that evolutionists and creationists have the same amount of proof for their opinions is comical. If we're talking about how the universe formed - Im pretty sure none of us know. But if were talking about the creation of man - Im pretty sure science has that one in the bag as a win. If you believe that creationists have as much proof of their theories - I might believe you're an alien, at least as far as reading goes. While I'll never prove that God did not create man, I can prove that he existed for many thousands or millions of years before the religious nuts thought he did. If you don't believe carbon dating is real - than maybe I would go work on your hail mary's - because you're gonna need them yourself

Tim - wouldn't it be easier if Jesus just showed up once and for all to prove all these silly scientists wrong. Why don't you go pray for him to do so & come back and post when he does. It's only been 2000 years or so - when will you give up? I'm just asking cause I'm curious. I'm not sure what to believe yet, but 2000 years wow - I do give you people credit for patience and faith.

How can you say "You cannot show a common ancestor between man and any other living being on this planet." and " I do not pray to any God and I do believe in evolution" in the same argument?

I also do not pray to any God - and do not know what to believe yet about how we were created. I just feel pretty comfortable calling someone stupid if they believe the earth is only 10,000 years old. It may be offensive, but I'm not sorry for that. If someone tells me that the earth was created 6000 years ago - I am automatically not interested in learning anything from them because I think they are ignorant. Just as if someone told me the earth was flat I would think they were dumb. Without picking sides, I have seen a lot more dumb people in the religious camp than that of the science camp. As you see in my previous post - I respect and admire the leap of faith of these people.

The original article is about our education system and has now turned into something all together different. But I have enjoyed reading the exchange of ideas. Joseph...there are all kinds of theories on the existence of God, origins of man (from humanistic, secular, and religious perspectives). Too many for us to discuss on the patch. You are correct no one was there...so we cannot claim to know how it all began with empirical scientific data...we cannot observe it. We do have cause and effect...and the theory of first cause. We also have the Biblical account - which is a first hand account from my position. We also have what we do observe today, which supports creation more than it does evolutionary theory. As for the origins of man...we were created...not evolved from lower beings. There is much support for this; evolutionist say we have a "missing link" in the fossil records, that is because there is no link. Man was created, we did not evolve from lower life forms. As for carbon dating, be careful, this is being questioned by many scientists because it is inaccurate and inconsistent. Carbon dating is proving to be unreliable. You can find reports that support both positions on carbon dating. At a minimum we must realize it is under scrutiny and in many ways is being discredited. I think right now the dating of the earth is in question. I am okay with that. I am comfortable allowing science wrestle with these issues.

I actually believe more in the alien theory than the creationist theory - at least the alien people admit they are still looking for answers. The Church pretty much feels there is nothing more to learn. That is what specifically turns me off to their approach. Science and Aliens win in the fact alone that they admit that the answers are still to be discovered. Ask the church what is unknown about the creation of man and you will be scolded. I say this from experience at a Catholic school for 12 years. If you ask anyone "in what year the world was created"? the party that gives an answer is wrong in my book because they admit they are no longer asking the question. We're probably more alike than you think. I just feel a little more comfortable calling people stupid today. Now if you want to argue over how beneficial Obamacare could be if those nutjob republicans would quit making an election campaign out of it - I'm in! - pleasure debating with you Tim

Joseph...thanks for the respectful words and for sharing your various views. Perhaps someday we will cross paths. This would make for great discussions. Don't think we would ever agree...but it would definitely be interesting. Take care to all, I am patched out for a while.

@ Denny: Early last century Great Britain initiated the 'Dole' (welfare) for the unemployed. As mining shut down, many miners were out of work. The miners self image prevented many of them signing up as they viewed it as 'charity' and their hard working, steady, responsible self view had difficulty with the 'shame' of taking 'hand outs'.

By the time their grand children were reaching adulthood, the bulk of the youth of Britain were seeking ways, schemes, and 'stories' to GET ON the Dole. This is a prevalent mind set for many in Britain today.

Can't the liberal mind set see the danger to a thriving society should this become the culture in the USA? Those in genuine need for survival and health care must definitely be taken care of, but when it becomes a way of life to live off the taxpayer/worker/government, we are heading for our own Greek Armageddon.

@ Keith: I just checked the poll you are referring to. It does state 58% of 'republicans' believe in creationism. But, interestingly enough, 41% of democrats also believe in creationism as do 39% of independents.

In total 46% of Americans believe in Creationism.

By your standard, Independents are the least 'stupid' of all.

And..I think there are two concepts of 'creationism'. 1. God created man and earth somewhere within the past 10,000. 2. God created man within the parameters of evolution. I don't know if these was differentiated in the poll.

My Opinion of stupid: A large group of bloggers who allow someone to blame Conservatives for the condition of our educational system, place every problem known to America at the feet of same, and then sit back and watch them argue about Religion, creationism, etc.
We should not allow a typical, Liberal, Union Stooge to guide our thoughts, or discussions.
Next, we`ll have to listen to "Global Warming" is the cause of our 17 million debt, the complete lost of respect worldwide , and the errosion of our freedoms, ad infinitum!
Whether my God is better than your God will be revealed soon enough---the current problem is the survuval of our way of life----do we follow the Unions and their paid OWS brethren, who attempt to intimidate the electorate, and the ELECTED, or do we try to bring some semblance of fiscal responsibility to our leadership.

A Free Republic or A Socialist-Marxist Tyranny? ---It`s Time To Choose!!!

Thank you for your kind attention!

It's good to see trolls are allowed to write articles in Local Voices.

@Earl: Maybe we can help enlighten the poor fellow. The only thing I got out of his presentation is that Republicans are proven stupid and that is why our educational standing internationally is so poor. Rather simplistic in its premise...and without any step by step logic to validate this opinion. He goes on a tirade against religion and republicans. He conveniently doesn't reveal that 41% of the democrats poll in agreement with 58% of the republicans. It would seem to me if his premise were true...a lot democrats certainly participate in contributing to this poor educational rating 'result'. LOL!

OK this may be a false syllogism and again it may not but no one in here has scientific proof either way. Here is my premise. From 1933 to final abdication in 1980 the liberals were in charge, waning from 1968. The liberals brought us from a backwater isolationist’s country to number one in the world. Waxing from 1968 and culminating in 1980 until now the conservatives have been in charge. During that time we have fallen from most of the honorable top 10 lists.

The liberals have not changed from 1933. For nearly 40 years the liberals were in charge and American became number one. We advocated then, and still do, for strong unions. We advocated in 1933 for a strong regulatory government and still do. We advocated a strong safety net then and still do. And we became number one in the world. Enter the conservatives and we have fallen. These are facts.