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Northeast Ohio Conservatives Rally Around Josh Mandel

Republican voters at a rally in Solon say GOP U.S. Senate candidate Josh Mandel is the polar opposite of his opponent, Democratic Sen. Sherrod Brown and President Barack Obama.

 

Joy and Lowell Wolfe say they didn't become politically active until Barack Obama was elected to the White House.

Since then, the couple from Geauga County has volunteered for Republican causes, including working to repeal the new health care law. They want to kick Obama out of office, and send Democratic Sen. Sherrod Brown packing too. They see Brown as walking in lock-step with the president.

"When people of Ohio had differences with the president, Sherrod Brown cast his vote with the president," said Lowell Wolfe.

Enter Josh Mandel.

Mandel is challenging Brown for his Senate seat. Currently Ohio's treasurer, Mandel has energized voters like the Wolfes who make up the Republican base.

The Wolfes and roughly 200 other votes came to the Solon Community Center on Tuesday night to hear Mandel speak to a crowd of supporters.

These voters, all staunch supporters of Mandel's candidady, said he is a credible and exciting opponent to the Democratic incumbent, one they think could make inroads in Cuyahoga County, traditionally a Democratic stronghold.

"He's a valid candidate and challenger to Sen. Brown," said Dennis Tidmore, president of the Southeast Republican Club, which hosted Mandel's rally in Solon. "He's diametrically opposed to what Brown stands for."

"Ohio is a swing state, one of the seven or eight states that are pivotal," he added. "If Republicans are galvanized and get out the vote and hit the streets and motivate others, so goes the nation."

During his speech, Mandel said Brown is a good person who loves his country but that the two men "just have a different idea of where we want to take this country" on issues such as health care and job creation.

"We're going to win it by going eyeball to eyeball, and gatherings just like this, and convincing people that the policy ideas and the vision for the country that I see, for which I fight, will take our nation, our state and our families in a much better direction," Mandel said.

The Mandel-versus-Brown tilt is shaping up to be one of the most intriguing races in the country. That's clear to anyone who's watched their television in recent weeks, as the money flows in and candidates and outside groups pummel each other with advertising. The contest will likely be the most expensive in Ohio history.

Joy Wolfe said Mandel is an honest candidate who she believes wants what's best for Ohioans.

"I think it's very important to have somebody responsible and who will work to improve our lives," she said. "Brown is too far left for me, so I'm interested to see how far Mandel's going to go."

Related Topics: Josh Mandel, Sherrod Brown, and elections 2012

I.M. Wright

6:26 am on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

"Joy Wolfe said Mandel is an honest candidate....'"I think it's very important to have somebody responsible...'"

And there, ladies and gentlemen, is the PERFECT example of the ignorance, stupidity & laziness of the average voter. In this case, these people see the "R" next to Mandel's name and don't bother to educate them on the type of lying, never-completed-a-job candidate he is. It's even more laughable that someone criticized Brown for "walking lock-step" with Democrats. Yeah, because he is the only one who does that or has ever done that. Ever. Because we can't find any Republicans -- esp. here in Ohio -- who have not walked in lock-step with other Republicans. Especially not recently. (/sarcasm off)

Again, typical wingnut ignorance.
But, that doesn't matter. He's got a letter ("R") next to his name.

(stand-by for the partisan loons to come to his defense with their "reasons" (excuses)).

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Guy Thomas

5:20 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Your comment is a perfect example of the pot calling the kettle black. My sense is that you are one who votes for anyone with a "D" by his name. In the case of Brown, that would be an incompetant andf irresponsible representative who has spend us into oblivion and whose sole interest lies with government and union workers and the bottom feeders to lazy to take care of themselves. Now those aren't excuses loser, they are facts.

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Guy Thomas

5:44 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Last name is Thomas. No problem adding it to the profile. IM Wright, really? You're the one without the juevos to truly identify yourself, loser!

Your comment "as if Republicans don't lie with groups that work against the average Joe/Jane Citizen." Talk about a partisan diatribe!

$5 trillion in additional debt in four years, stimulus packages targeted towards welfare recipients and unions, the largest expansion of federal government in American history. All supported by Brown.

I can understand your anger given the butt wupping you loons took in 2010 and will soon be taking again. Get over it and recognize that you support a president that has the worst approval rating in history and that the progressive agenda is not what this country wants.

One question. Are you a minority, on government subsidies, a government sector employee or in a union as those are about the only people supporting the democrats days.

Say Goodnight IM Wrong, or whatever your real name is.

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Victor Mooney

7:40 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Wow, I can`t imagine --some one criticizing Sherrod Brown, Absolutely amazing.
I can understand how you must feel. At a loss for words. It`s like attacking Jesus Christ himself. What perfection, class, loyalty, etc.

If you`re happy with the way things are---certainly vote for him again. He`s only had 30 years to get `er done. So many things are undone, America is standing astride the drain---might as well give them another term to flush.

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Ben Dover

8:29 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Are you taking about President Obama

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Tim T

12:14 pm on Wednesday, August 22, 2012

To Guy Thomas: You Sir, are an absolute idiot. Have you ever heard of spell check? I digress. Have you ever taken a course on the language that I assume you would ardently argue is our country's "main language"? I would ask if you have ever taken a grammar course...but I don't want you to spend too much time trying to google "grammar".

Mars

7:46 am on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

I find the photo the most interesting. What would you say the average age and ethnicity of the group is? Anyone?

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Paxton Crenshaw

9:40 am on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

i thought the same thing when i looked at that photo... white and old.

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Paxton Crenshaw

11:55 am on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

jean, not even the same coin-izzo.

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Guy Thomas

5:26 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Yes, white older individuals. Most likely the 50% who pay federal income taxes, own small business that provide employment opportunities and who put their lives on the line for their country. Their make-up is much different that the crowd I saw surrounding Obama here recently in Ohio; african-american with their hands out looking for him to give them a few bucks.

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Jean Williams

5:36 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

guy why agree with your first part, the second half of your comment sounds like it comes right from a clan meeting

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John McMillan

8:26 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Guy Thomas' comments all smack of racism and prejudice, so for me that invalidates any ridiculous comment he may come up with. I'm embarrassed for you, sir.

Barbara Cook

8:53 am on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

I was at the rec center last night(swimming not attending) and let's just say the diversity found in Solon was not represented by those I saw leaving with their literature, etc. I didn't know honest candidates accused opponents of being Muslim just to scare the ignorant/racist into voting for them. Someone needs to go back to the dictionary to look up "honest".

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Bobbi Sommer

9:30 am on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

unbelievable that none of the 3 people above attended the forum, but chose to criticize Treasurer Mandel. He has done a terrific job of cleaning up the Treasurer's
office, putting into place good people and saving Ohio taxpayers money. He completed two terms as Lyndhurst City Councilman, two terms in the Ohio House of Representatives, both while servicing our country as a US Marine !!
And, the crowd who came to actually hear him speak (not just criticize from the lobby) WAS DIVERSE !!! Young, old and all ethnicities !

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Robert Mihaly

9:59 am on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

...and, of course, he started running for the US Senate within weeks of taking office as Ohio Treasurer, although he, possibly feeling the tiniest modicum of guilt about so quickly breaking his pledge to serve his term, didn't announce his run at the Senate until a year after it started. On the "good" people he put in the Treasurer's office, what about his pledge to take cronyism out of the office? I'm sure you've read about his buddies he put on the job. That doesn't give you pause for concern? This guy will give jobs to his buddies as he sells out the Middle Class. I find that extremely offensive.

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Steve Rosen

11:45 am on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Bobbi, I must take issue with your premise that Josh has "...done a terrific job of cleaning up the Treasurer's office." The implication there is the office was not functioning well prior to his taking the helm. That is just false.

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Harry

11:48 am on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Bobbi:
1) The Treasurer's office was not a mess when Mandel took it over.
2) He barely was in office in Lyndhurst when he volunteered for a non-combat tour of duty in Iraq. And his property tax cut plan (which turned out to be meager) hurt the city and schools.
3) As a State Rep he also wasn't present for half his term because he volunteered for a second tour (non combat) in Iraq.
4) Then as soon as he took office as Treasurer he announced his candidacy for the United State Senate.

He seems like an OK person but he is highly scripted and certainly doesn't have a record of accomplishment other than running for higher office.

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James Murphy

11:51 am on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

thanks for clearing that up Steve Rosen who just posted last night
"I am not now, nor have I ever been a member of the Republican Party. I am proud to be a registered Democrat and the President of the Beachwood Woodmere Democratic Ward Club." your opinion biased is so noted

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Steve Rosen

12:39 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

James Murphy, Yes, I am a proud Democrat. I posted my message last night as the Patch had me listed as a Republican and I wanted to ensure the error was made obvious. As far as my comment regarding the Treasurer's office, I invite you to produce any evidence Treasurer Mandel cleaned up anything in the office. The office was functioning fine. It is not a party line issue, it is a historical fact. You may have your own opinions, but you may not have your own facts.

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ian king

12:51 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Hi Bobbie - having just relocated to NE Ohio, I find the candidacy of Mandel laughable! I mean, do citizens of Ohio really believe this guy is QUALIFIED and EXPERIENCED to be a US Senator? Something must be in the water here if that is the case. I think the real question here is why would the Republican Party of Ohio even consider this guy to run for the US Senate? He obviously has limited experience in both the public and private sectors. Being in the Marines is honorable but is certainly not a qualification for the intelligence/knowledge/experience a US Senator must have. Did the Party think he is a "perfect candidate" because he will
lock-step in unison with whatever the Republican Party powers that be tell him to do/vote? I think this is more the reality of what is really behind a Josh Mandel candidacy, because if you vote for him for his experience and knowledge, it will be such a wasted vote! Honestly, the candidacy for the US Senate of Josh Mandel is a real embarrassment for the people of Ohio. He is such a limited and sad choice for such an office - shame on the Republican Party for pushing for his candidacy; and I think that Mandel accepted, especially at his young inexperienced age and after he made a public promise not to seek higher office during his term as treasurer, just confirms my belief he is not to be trusted, and is very ambitious, with limited insight into his own weaknesses.

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I.M. Wright

5:22 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Interesting that I had a comment here that has since been removed.

Patch Editors: Do you realize your "selective deletion" of posts is clearly being watched, monitored and tracked, as in what you decide to keep and what you decide to remove?

You're making yourself look like the true wannabe-"journalists" that you are.

Robert Mihaly

9:47 am on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Mandel certainly is the polar opposite of Sen. Sherrod Brown. Sen. Brown is a straight shooter, while Mandel regularly rates "Pants on Fire" with Politi-Fact. Does he even know how to tell the truth? Sen. Brown is concerned about the diminishing prospects for the Middle Class, under assault by the 1%. Mandel is a tool of the 1%, and if you haven't figured it out by now, they want it all. Mandel's supporters, besides Karl Rove's, the Koch brothers', and the US Chamber of Commerce's Superpacs, are the 1% and those who have been fooled by the rhetoric of the 1%. For those who haven't figured it out, I recommend you read Jeff Faux's "The Servant Economy: Where America’s Elite is Sending the Middle Class" before it's too late. First they took our promotions, then many of the jobs, which they shipped offshore. Now, with husband and wife both having to work just to lose ground less quickly, they've pushed the remaining workers to the brink. While they reap the benefits of increased productivity, they keep all the rewards and expect even more. Guess what. There's no more to give. The fat is long gone, and the bone and muscle are being lost now. Sen. Brown understands this. Mandel hasn't a clue.

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Harry

10:51 am on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

You would be better arguing your point for Sherrod with some original thought than just regurgitating rhetoric from his campaign game plan. That already tired rhetoric from both sides has grown old already and it is only July.

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Robert Mihaly

12:05 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Harry, Harry, Harry...do you not realize that everything I said is true and not part of any campaign? If you objecting to a campaign that is centered on truth, then mandel is the candidate for you. But if you're tired of the campaign, don't you have to be tired of the so-called "informational" attack ads being funded by Karl Rove's Crossroads GPS, the Koch brothers' Americans for Prosperity, the US Chamber of Commerce, and all the other right wing users who hide under the veil of anonymity? They've been at it for a year already. And then there's Mandel saying Sherrod Brown has outraised him in funding...another big lie. These Superpacs are not supposed to coordinate with candidates' campaigns, but do you believe that is anything but a monstrous lie in this case? You really need to read the book I cited...unless, of course, you're part of the 1%. But I doubt you would have signed your name here if that described you.

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Harry

1:18 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Robert Mihaly...my eyes go glassy when you start that kind of rambling. Keep it up and I just may have to vote for Mandel. Both campaigns are spewing that kind of nonsense. Stop the nonsense. We know that Sherrod is far left and Josh is far right. But there has to be better reasons to either re-elect or elect our next United States Senator. Show me which candidate is closer to the middle where most of America really resides.

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Robert Mihaly

3:31 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

If you're not at least sitting with a couple million in assets, and you vote for Josh Mandel, you're voting against yourself. He has nothing to offer the Middle Class aside from his talking points. Sherrod Brown, not afraid of being liberal, has worked to keep or bring back jobs, to fix the Agriculture Department's bias toward big agribusiness, and much much more. If you don't recognize when a politician is working for the public good, I'm sorry. Being in the middle means you really don't have anyone to vote for. That you would consider voting for a politician with no discernable record of accomplishment is unfortunate.

Mars

10:12 am on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

"Joy and Lowell Wolfe say they didn't become politically active until Barack Obama was elected to the White House."

Why not? We've had plenty of democratic presidents. Why now?

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Mars

10:14 am on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

“Differences are not intended to separate, to alienate. We are different precisely in order to realize our need of one another.”
― Desmond Tutu

We're all on this rotating rock together.

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Paxton Crenshaw

11:58 am on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

'cause those other ones weren't black.

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John McMillan

8:32 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Paxton, you hit that nail right on the head...the unspoken truth that is only thinly veiled by Republican rhetoric!

Bobbi Sommer

11:48 am on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Wow - you liberals sure all sound angry all the time.
Mary Lou -
Many conservatives became active after Obama was in office because they
feel he is purposely ruining the country that we love.

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Cindy Kain

12:13 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

@Bobbi - "He is purposely ruining the country that we love."

Come on...I am a Republican and even I don't believe that... This is why Liberals are angry because you make statements like that.
Please, Stick with the Facts!
Thanks!

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Robert Mihaly

12:26 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

"...purposely ruining the country..."?

You mean by cleaning up the financial mess that Dubya left for the country? You mean the mess that the Mad Tea Party has turned Congress into? You mean trying to end the two unfunded wars he inherited? You mean trying to craft bipartisan laws with a disloyal opposition that said from day one that all they wanted was to make Obama a one-term President? Or do you mean that a mixed race President doesn't look like you? Republicans have held the office of the President fro 1969-1976, 1981-1992, 2001-2008. Since 1979, our nation's productivity increased by more than 40%, but real income stayed flat for the Middle Class. Who really has been ruining our country? I think 28 years of Republican presidents since 1969 likely own more of the blame. The gridlock that Republicans created doesn't show much love of country.

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ian king

12:41 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Hi Bobbie - too bad those same conservatives didn't get active during the bush/cheney years: massive tax cuts for the most wealthiest that were to "trickle down" and generate jobs for us common folks = gee, where are those jobs? and bush deciding to fight TWO WARS, with no money to pay for those wars = gee, where are the victories there? gotta love the republicans and the party of always voting NO = deciding to get active when FINALLY someone tries to solve the massive problems facing this country today. but I guess, that is ruining the country if anyone tries to offer a solution, rather than the uniform Republican voices of NO!

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I.M. Wright

5:18 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

"Wow - you liberals sure all sound angry all the time. "

Again, more stupidity from the partisan wingnut. When you don't like the FACTS that are tossed at your stupid backside, you have to pull out this line. Of course, there are plenty of RECENT examples of "angry right-wingers", too. In addition to the "moron right-wingers" such as yourself.

And please, spare us the "Conservative" act. That's the biggest joke going among the Republican Party. They wouldn't know what being conservative was if it was staring them in the face.

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John McMillan

8:34 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

OMG, absolute rubbish! Where do you get your ideas? No one is "purposely ruining the country that we love." I laughed out loud when I read this.

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Jay

12:44 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Wrong. Many Conservatives became active after Obama was in office because his skin is black, not because they felt he was purposely ruining the country you/we love. Bush did a good job at ruining the country long before Obama took office, why aren't you going after him as well? Because his skin is white, perhaps?

The amount of hatred & derogatory remarks that have been directed at Barack & Michelle Obama, since entered the White House, is disgusting & shameful. Vile filthy remarks that would never be said about a white president & white first lady, even if they brought the country to a standstill.

It also proves that a great many Americans, probably you included, never moved past the days of slavery.

Jay

12:48 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

"Joy and Lowell Wolfe say they didn't become politically active until Barack Obama was elected to the White House."

Gee, I wonder if the color of Barack Obama's skin had anything to do with Joy and Lowell Wolfe becoming politically active after he was elected? There's been quite a few democratic presidents before Obama, why didn't the Wolfes bother being politically active then?
Oh, right, of course, all past democratic president were white, including the last one. why would the Wolfes bother complaining about a white man, after all, they are one of their own.

Hypocrites

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James Murphy

1:03 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Jay save your race baiting, remember Herman Cain, he was ahead in most of the polls until the democrats and their media lynched him (he drops out and POOF no more story)

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I.M. Wright

5:19 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

James, EVERYONE running for the Republican nominee was ahead at one point in time. Which speaks volumes in of itself.

Bobbi Sommer

12:56 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Cindy - do you realize how many laws that were passed by our Congressional representatives that he is sidestepping and going around, i.e. not defending the
Defense of Marriage Act, not pursuing illegal immigrants, coming up with his own
"Dream Act", etc. I sincerely feel and he has said he wants to "transform" America,
but most people do not believe for the better... And that IS a fact.

And Harry - maybe you don't want to refer to the Treasurer's office as a "mess" but
money was being wasted --- OUR money... Somehow people in government seem to think the government has money... it is OUR taxpayer money they are wasting

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Paxton Crenshaw

1:10 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

all of things you list, bobbi, are MAKING this country a better place to live. interesting that all of the things you list are minority issues (gays, hispanics) - you're bigotry shows.

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Harry

1:23 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Bobbi, tell us how money was being wasted in the Ohio Treasurer's office before Mandel got there. I am probably not voting in this Senate race because both sides make me so sick with their nonsensical rhetoric. Tell us what you are going to do for the American people instead of spewing political ideology. I don't care that Josh was a Marine. That doesn't qualify someone with such a light resume to be a United States Senator. Prove to me that Sherrod Brown isn't an extreme liberal in centrist's clothing. Then I might change my mind and vote for one of them.

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Ted Dick

5:09 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

I personally do not support the Defense of Marriage Act. In any event, according to Wikipedia
The Obama administration announced in 2011 that it had determined that section 3 was unconstitutional and, though it would continue to enforce the law, it would no longer defend it in court.
Further, Section 3 of the DOMA has been found unconstitutional in a California bankruptcy case, a California class action suit on the part of public employees, several federal district court judges in three circuit court jurisdictions, and by a unanimous United States Court of Appeals for the First Circuit three-judge panel.
Finally, just two days ago, Edie Windsor, 83, sent a petition to the U.S. Supreme Court to hear her case against the Defense of Marriage Act.

To me, marriage is a public statement of your commitment to someone else and should be available to all adults independent of sexual orientation.

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ian king

6:50 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

HI Bobbi - totally agree with you about a lot of our tax dollars being wasted. Whoever gets elected - Mandel or Brown - aren't you excited that maybe one of them will finally begin investigating where all our tax money went/was wasted under bush/cheney era and especially the Halliburton gang in Iraq? I am sure the 8 years under bush/cheney and the whole Iraq debacle if properly investigated would reveal BILLIONS were wasted. We could really use those billions that were wasted in Iraq now to help fund health care access in this country today! Don't you agree?

Sam

1:34 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

It is appalling that those that would categorize themselves as either liberal or Democrat believe that ad-hominem attacks are a substitute for either reasoned argument or factual knowledge of a particular issue. The demographics of the meeting last night are as a practical matter not relevant as it roughly matches that of Solon as a whole, which is not a surprise. Mr. Mandel's performance as Treasurer has shown competence during difficult economic times and his "cleaning up" of the treasurer's office has much to do with cutting down on frivolous and unnecessary expenses and managing the State's bond portfolios well. His qualifications pass the constitutional test, and beyond that is for the voters to decide. Other than that all of the nonsense based on talking points is a waste of time, although the blithe accusations of racism and bigotry are illustrative of mindset that is either juvenile or rigorously jingoistic. History tells us that's where totalitarianism finds its roots.

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ian king

6:59 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

HI Sam - of course what you state is basic civics 101. If you read the comments based thoughtfully here, most focus on Mandel's lack of credible experience, his very limited knowledge outside the realm of Ohio, and an aggressive ambitious political/power streak combined with his now broken promise to not finish his term as Treasurer. All these "traits" cannot be denied.
It is not a waste of time when a candidate is being offered to the citizens of Ohio by a national political party as someone who is experienced, competent, and honest.
In fact, it seems to be quite the opposite. Yes, Mandel can run for any office he wants, but to get to the point of running for US Senate requires an awful lot of money and power broking/manueavering for someone as young, inexperienced and obviously so career eager as Mandel. That seems to confirm Mandel has a lack of insight into his own qualifications or lack of, he doesn't walk to put time in to earn his career/political dues, and the powers that be in the Republican Party have finally found their Ohio YES man! Scary choice for the citizens of Ohio!

Barbara Cook

2:06 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Yet none of his supporters are able to say a peep about what his campaign said about Boyce being a Muslim even though they knew it wasn't true. That must be okay with those of you who support him. If so, I wonder why that's okay to you for him to have done that. I believe at that point in his campaign he was ahead in the polls so to pull that racist trick was just plain mean (not like it wouldn't have been otherwise)

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CC

4:24 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

any one with the name of IA Wright or IA King shows their arrogance and closed mindedness. Not to mention they obviously have too much time on their hands

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ian king

7:03 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

HI CC - the name is Ian - got that, IAN - King. Maybe you thought I was wrong Iowa?
(please google Ian to find its well researched Scottish background. or is Ian somehow mysterious and too "foreign sounding" for you! LOL)

Adam C. Miller

7:47 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Sherrod Brown is part of the problem... Washington needs NEW leadership and a NEW direction!!!

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Pad Womack

8:01 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Exactly how is Senator Brown part of the problem? Enlighten me and please do so with cited facts and not personal opinions or GOP talking points.

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Adam C. Miller

12:55 am on Thursday, July 19, 2012

No talking points here... America needs a NEW generation of leaders! Is Mandel the answer? Who really knows. But one thing WE all know is America is heading in the WRONG direction... something has to change and in my opinion it starts with voter encated term limits!!! VOTE'EM ALL OUT!!!!

Robert Mihaly

12:13 am on Thursday, July 19, 2012

What none of Mandel's supporters appear to understand is that he will vote with the party that crashed the economy. Or, if you can believe it, they don't care. Mitt Romney and Josh Mandel both support the budget priorities of Rep. Paul Ryan...a plan that will ape the austerity measures that right at this moment are sending Europe back into recession. Despite the fact that they know that a weak economy is not the time to raise taxes on the Middle Class and should be aware that the austerity measures of the 1930's deepened the Great Depression, they will continue blindly on that path. They want to protect the tax cuts for those who make over 250k, even though we know that consumer spending is the greatest portion of our economy. The rich don't spend the money, and they don't create good jobs...at least not in this country.

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Robert Mihaly

12:15 am on Thursday, July 19, 2012

This ridiculous page limits the number of characters, so you can't really present a reasoned argument in one sitting. So here's the rest of my post...and the last one.

Keep this in mind. The Federal Reserve calculates that the median net worth of American families fell 39% between 2007 and 2010. It dropped from $126,400 to $77,300. Our net worth was set back 20 years. Most of this happened before Obama took office. The value of our houses still hasn't recovered at all, because, while the bankers got bailed out, you and I were left to sink or swim. Despite attempts to remedy this by Democrats like Pres. Obama and Sen. Brown, the Republican Party dug in its heels, so nothing was done to help homeowners. I'm not voting for the people who are using partisan politics to keep the economy in a bad place. You can vote for whomever you want, but do you want to vote for a future where you are held in check by corporate control of the government? They don't really want to shrink government. They want to own it...and us.

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Adam C. Miller

12:50 am on Thursday, July 19, 2012

You're not wrong... But our President and his party had a SUPER majority for his 1st 2 years in office and what did they do for the economy? Pass an EXTREMELY unpopular health care law (Brown voted for) that raises taxes on working class citizens and is estimated to cost $3 Trillion in the first 10 years... Good thing Ohioans OVERWHELMINGLY voted to enact the Ohio Health Care Amendment, "exempting residents of Ohio from national health care mandates which would stop any state law from forcing persons, employers or health care providers from participating in a health care system."

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ian king

9:43 am on Thursday, July 19, 2012

HI Adam, right you are, but please look at the stats about the future of Ohio. Having relocated here for a job recently (health care is one of the few growth industries in Ohio), it was very depressing to see that more young people are leaving this state than moving in. And one of the huge reasons this state is on a decline is that it is now nationally perceived as being relatively intolerant, biased, conservative/right wing religious dominated, and not forward thinking. With the passage of the Ohio Health Care Amendment, the backward thinking citizens of Ohio were able to continue this impression nationally that Ohio is now not a progressive/21st century state but one that is clearly repressive and focused on wanting to have government control people's lives/choices than on government trying to solve the multiple of problems that Ohio faces. Sorry folks on this blog, but just quoting the facts from the recent 2010 census: Cleveland lost 17% of its population; Cincinnati, Toledo, Youngstown, Dayton and Akron all suffered huge population declines. Ohio lost two US House seats. The downward decline will continue and combined now with a regressive govenmental environment, increasing older population who are retired, and famously harsh winter and short humid summers, who under 35 would want to move here? Yet these are the folks who have incomes and pay taxes! So I guess Adam, Ohio will reap what it so foolishly has sowed!

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ian king

9:55 am on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Hi Adam, hope you have a chance to read a couple books that help to explain the direction this country has already moved to - except here in Ohio! -
Richard Florida's BEYOND MASS PRODUCTION and also by Florida THE RISE OF THE CREATIVE CLASS. There are many reasons innovative 21st century businesses and those who want to work in them are having great success in places like Chicago, NYC, SF, LA, Seattle, Austin, Denver, Madison. With close to 25% of all working Americans - over 40 million - now employed in these 21st businesses
if Ohio is to survive as an economic state, it has to start to think 21st century and not 20th century. And a lot of that thinking will be in direct contrast to what the state leadership now advocating/legislating, such as the ridiculous out of step Ohio Health Care Amendment. Ohio needs to advocate for innovation, tolerance, technology in the new workplace or face total economic disaster.

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Susan Ruiz Patton

8:50 am on Thursday, July 19, 2012

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AMA

8:56 am on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Just because a person belongs to a specific political party doesn't mean he is OBLIGATED to vote for a person who is is UNqualified to take the office he's running for. This is why we end up with bad government. Bad politicians voted in, who don't do their job for their constituents, and in it only for personal gain and power.
Instead of voting for a jerk,please research and stop listening to FOX and Rush!

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Evan Hammersmith

9:04 am on Thursday, July 19, 2012

instead of FOX & RUSH, we should switch to Huffpo and MSNBC, right?

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Evan Hammersmith

10:58 am on Thursday, July 19, 2012

media bias only goes one way in your mind. I already knew that, just wanted you to admit to that.

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Adam C. Miller

11:24 am on Thursday, July 19, 2012

This is why I REFUSE to be a member of a political party...

Bobbi Sommer

9:05 am on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Sherrod Brown has been in politics for 38 years and in Washington for over a decade.
If he was part of the solution, he would have accomplished something by now.
Josh Mandel will NOT just vote the party line -- if you got to know him, you would realize that. I feel his youth and outside-of-Washington thinking will be an asset.
We need more like him.

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Holly Pierpont

9:48 am on Thursday, July 19, 2012

MSNBC has admitted in their recent split from Microsoft that they are a liberal channel, with the goal of offsetting the conservative Fox news. So anyone who's out there thinking MSNBC is a non-partisan news source should wake up.

Factcheck.org -- it's a wonderful website that provides actual facts and debunks much of what you hear in the news and on the political ads. It's non-partisan you get the real story. Anyone reading it will see that clearly there's a lot of misinformation out there, which is what they want.

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Paxton Crenshaw

10:02 am on Thursday, July 19, 2012

they are certainly partisan - but they are also quite accurate.

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Adam C. Miller

11:26 am on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Just check out the ratings...

ian king

10:09 am on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Hi Bobbi - here are some facts about Brown's record and accomplishments. I find it impressive and reflects a thoughtful public policy making approach to government. Don't you?

1. Co-sponsor of the Protect-IP Act
2. Opposed the Iraq War and the billions to fund it
3. Voted to get our troops out of Iraq with firm deadlines
4. Voted to provide education fund for veterans
5. Voted to extend unemployment benefits in the midst of the worst depression since 1929
6. Voted to reduce Medicaid fraud
7. Voted for funds to combat drug trafficing
8. Voted for funds to assist victims of natural disasters
9. Voted to impose duties on Chinese imports
10. Voted for several human rights issues, including repeal of Don't Ask, Don't Tell
11. Voted for FDA to create new incentives for development of new medicines
12. Voted for the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act to insure reform of the health care system
13. Author of two well received/reviewed books on Congress and Free Trade
14. Advocates to protect Buy America laws, advocates for start up funds to assist minority businesses and woman owned businesses, and advocates to hold foreign manufacturers to American labor and environmental standards.
15. Firm advocate of saving/protecting the environment for our children/grandchildren

Bobbi, can you provide a list of Josh's accomplishments/successes? Would love to see that one - even if it a bit shorter! LOL

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Adam C. Miller

11:31 am on Thursday, July 19, 2012

He's been in Congress since 1993... It's time!

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ian king

1:51 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Hi Adam, please don't confuse quantity with quality...............Brown has an impressive record whether you like it or not. He has been productive during his years of service. So please don't associate experience with lack of quality - in the case of Brown, it is just not true. Believe the facts pleaaaase!

Jim

1:02 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

The first item in your list is extremely troubling. I have a hard time describing Protect IP as a "success" and/or an "accomplishment" when it would have permitted the rampant destruction of the free and open internet we currently enjoy. It was a terrible idea, and I was disappointed to learn that, partisanship aside, a Senator from Ohio could be so ignorant and blind as to the true effects of the legislation.

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ian king

2:03 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Hi Jim, I disagree. The Protect IP Act was one of the only bipartisan supported bills of recent note. Conservative groups such as the US Chamber of Commerce, came together with Progressive groups such as the AFL-CIO to support copyright/intellectual property right and to shut down rogue sites. A lot of misinformation was out there about this bill and how it would limit noble causes such as freedom of speech, but that just was not true. If you read the legislation there is nothing in there about limiting freedom of speech or censorship. If anything, the bill was too vague and should have been more specific. However, something needs to be done about copyright protection on the net as a lot of disinformation/ false facts/piracy are epidemic on the net today. A recent study indicated that over 50% of so called "facts" posted on the net are just not true facts. One of the goals of this bill was to at least gain some control of one's own intellectual property and copyright. Isn't that what American business practice/policy is all about - protecting one's own property against falsehoods/misuse/ and plagarisms?

Adam C. Miller

1:13 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Nobody wants PIPA, SOPA, COICA, CISPA, or whatever bill our goverment needs to regulate and control us/internet... The USA PATRIOT Act (and Domestic Security Enhancement Act) is bad enough... Less Government. More Freedom.

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ian king

1:35 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Hi Adam, and I suppose you believe that the banking industry should not be regulated also? Maybe you are one of the lucky ones, but almost everyone I know has lost several thousand of dollars in not only savings accounts, MMA accounts, and equity in their homes due to the elimination of many banking regulations. Even Alan Greenspan has been "shocked" by the real world abuses and often illegal risks banks/investment firms have participated in - at a loss of trillions around the world. So I guess Adam, is less government with more freedom for industries like the financial one, still a good thing for us common folks?

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Adam C. Miller

4:43 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

CLEARLY, I was talking about Civil Liberties and Civil Rights violations... NOT the financial industry. Nice diversion! Stay on topic lol

Adam C. Miller

4:51 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

@Ian - Do some research on Fannie Mae (Federal National Mortgage Association) and Freddie Mac (Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation)... they owned 50% America's mortgage market, which led to the sub-prime mortgage crisis #Government

But I'm sure you already knew that...

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ian king

5:59 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Hi Adam - your kinda Tea Party analysis/slogan that "less government = more freedom" has been proven for several decades now to be just a bit too simplistic for life in America in the 21st century - wouldn't you agree?

Adam C. Miller

8:57 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac causing your friends to lose money has NOTHING to do with the 'Tea Party'...

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ian king

3:13 am on Monday, July 23, 2012

Hi Adam, I do luv how you take my written comments/thoughts out of context! Perhaps purposeful selectivity to make your own weak points stand out more???
My point/comment was that the Tea Party represents the most simplistic approach to solving very complex problems today in USA. The operational systems/policies of Fannie and Freddie Mac are of course, linked to banking and the mortgage industries. I guess the complexities of it all may be a bit too much for those Tea Party/Fox News devotees out there! LOL

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Adam C. Miller

3:38 am on Monday, July 23, 2012

So Fannie and Freddie aren't government sponsored entities?

l. frazier

8:49 pm on Sunday, July 22, 2012

No need to clutter-up the Nov. voting decisions; there are two alternatives: good ol' American Capitalism with Josh Mandel and Mittens Romney, or Pres. Obama and Sen. Sherrod Brown's demonstrated anti-American Socialism Experiment. Everything else is political smoke and mirrors this time around.

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ian king

3:17 am on Monday, July 23, 2012

Hi L. Frazier - I think you lost something in the interpretation.
it should be: too ambitious Mandel and very retro Romney represent your voting for Tax Bias Socialism for the Rich, while
Pres. Obama and Senator Brown represent your voting for an America that is Tax Fairness for everyone else!

AMA

11:31 pm on Sunday, July 22, 2012

Changing boundaries to prevent US citizens to vote,
Not producing tax returns
Supporting war type weapons allowed to be sold to citizens
Hiding bank accounts off shore to avoid paying taxes
Lying, cheating middle America and supporting big business free of taxes..
Now THAT'S ANTI AMERICAN!
Don't ya think?

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Adam C. Miller

3:45 am on Monday, July 23, 2012

Was the Granai airstrike un-American?

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