I reality-most republicans, we like, love teachers. It is the Unions we have a problem with, especially the Union bosses. They are in control-making teachers that are republicans pay their fees that go to democrat causes. Why is that right? And the Union bosses make 10 times (or higher) than the school teachers). Why is that right? Also, the Union bosses were exempt from Obamacare-if obama care is so great why are they exempt. Why is that right? Also, there are many wonderful teachers, but there are a few that just do not do their job-you just try and get rid of those few, and the Unions step in with a high paying lawyer and you just can't get rid of those few bad teachers. Why is that right? I could go and on-but Ithink you get the picture.
You make it sound like republicans hate teachers-simply and truthfully not so!
You party is for abortion- that means you hate children-is that right?

elicantu, it's like republicans in any other business.

We love our employees--we just don't want to pay them to do the job. And, without unions, you don't have to...so let's get rid of the unions.

Nah. We'll keep our unions--just like SB5 / Issue 2 showed.

Kathy K are public funds used when Obama ,Biden, sherrod,Mandell or any other official speaks ???

and have you ever thought about the economic impact to the many businesses in the city where these politicians speak ....you bring 5,000 -12,000 to any event and they will buy things

Right on Tom M!

This is not Obama. THIS IS ROMNEY. HE PAYS HIS OWN WAY!!!!
THEY ARE NOT SMOOCHERS LIKE MICHELLE AND OBAMA!!

Here is your answer Kathy....

http://www.morningjournal.com/articles/2012/10/29/news/doc508df54ac4cea157058336.txt?viewmode=fullstory

The Morning journal article is wrong that the kids would have "lunch" while the rally was held. The kids were in the PAC during the rally for approximately 3 hours watching movies. So they lost 3 hours of their school day.

hahaha funny

Kathy I did find this ..... http://www.ideastream.org/news/feature/49881

Department of Education ............ GONE 71 Billion Dollar Budget
Funding to PBS ..............GONE pbs president salary 675,000
Funding to NPR ..............GONE npr president salary 1,200,000

agreed the deparment of education needs to follow the route of "bayonets and horses" 71 billion will go a long way at the state level

Fire Departments are Socialism.

I RECALL A CERTAIN GUY BY THE NAME OF PRESIDENT OBAMA THAT WAS FOR GAY MARRIAGE WHEN IT WAS POLITICALLY CONVENIENT IN CHICAGO, THEN HE RAN FOR PRESIDENT -THEN HE WAS FOR TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE- (BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN), THEN A FEW MONTHS AGO- HE EVOLVED (YOU AND OBAMA CALL IT FLIP-FLOP WHEN SOMEONE ELSE CHANGES THEIR MIND)-ANYWAY , OBAMA FLIPPED-FLOPPED AGAIN- TO GAY MARRIAGE TO GET THE LIBERAL LEFT LEANING SUPPORTERS BACK ON HIS SIDE, OBAMA ALSO PROMISED HE WOULD CLOSE GITMO-LAST TIME I CHECKED-IT IS STILL THERE-ALTHOUGH, OBAMA BUILT A SOCCER COURT, AND SOME OTHER PERKS FOR TERRORISTS THAT HATE US, OBAMA ALSO PROMISED TO CUT THE OUR DEBT IN HALF-HE FLIPPED AND ADDED 6 MORE TRILLION TO IT, HE PROMISED UNEMPLOYMENT WOULD BE BELOW
5.+%, AGAIN HE FLOPPED, AND WE ARE IN REALITY 14% IF YOU COUNT THE PEOPLE WHO STOPPED LOOKING FOR WORK, AMONG THE BLACK YOUTH-IT IS 50%. BUT I GUESS THEY WILL VOTE FOR HIM EVEN IF THEY WERE STARVING. AND THE LIST OF FLIP-FLOPS FOR THIS PRESIDENT COULD GO AND ON, NOT TO MENTION HIS LYING AND FLIP FLOPPING ABOUT THE BENGHAZI MASSACRE AND TRAGEDY OF OUR 4 AMERICANS!
SO PLEASE DO NOT LECTURE US ON ANYBODY ELSE'S FLIP FLOPS. WE HAVE IN THE HIGHEST OFFICE IN OUR NATION THE KING OF FLIP FLOPS- & LYING:BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA.
HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF YOUR BROTHER OR SON OR FRIEND OR UNCLE HAD BEEN ONE OF THOSE SLAUGHTERED IN BENGHAZI BECAUSE YOUR PRESIDENT REFUSED THEIR PLEA FOR HELP? OH, THAT'S RIGHT-
YOU WOULD STILL VOTE FOR HIM!!!!

5

WHY ARE YOU SCREAMING

Jimbo-
Before you start calling people stupid, you better educate yourself. Those 2001/2003 Bush tax cuts were to expire in 2010 and Obama extend them. On top of that, he gave the average couple the "making work pay" credit of $800 in 2009 and 2010, and lowered the FICA deduction 2% in 2011 and 2012 giving the average family $1000 each year. That's the $3600 Obama boasts of. Not only did he extend Bushs, he added to them with those AND others for other people making less - they get money BACK having kids if they make a lower income. This is how almost 50% Americans pay no federal income tax. Is that right that the other 50% should when we all live in this country? Shouldn't everyone contribute something, the wealthy the most and the poor the least? But, instead, we give people money over and above what they have paid, withheld or owe - i.e., if they owe NOTHING, they can still get thousands back from the government in a refund check. Nice, huh?

Another problem is, that 2% reduction means now Social Security is funded less, because THAT is the source of funding SS. So, what do they do? The government makes that up from the general fund - and the debt then goes up. What sense does that make? And what happens when they don't extend this reduction? People will look at it like a tax increase, which it is not.
Educate yourself.

Well put.
"It certainly isn't kind. It certainly isn't forward. And it certainly isn't Christian."
Too true. The religious freedom that so many came to America for is slowly being repressed into a hate-mongering, foaming at the mouth, you can only worship the way we tell you or we'll eat you alive, religion.
Whatever happened to the maxim of treating others as you want to be treated?
Why all the ugliness?

"Repressed into a hate-mongering, foaming at the mouth, you can only worship the way we tell you or will eat you alive, religion". --or maybe shoot you in the head if you're a young woman seeking an education. Sounds like radical Islam to me. You can't connect that to Romney, any way you spin it.

I'm tired of all the, "We hate gays, we hate african-americans, we don't believe in abortion so you can't either, women don't need to make as much as men, we decide who can vote and who can't, backers of Romney.
Who smirks and takes their funding, so yes, I do tie those to Romney.
As insane as radical Islam is, this scares me much more. I expect that bad behavior from a repressed society of fanatics. But this is right here, in America.
We should be better than that. We used to hold ourselves out as better than that.
We should be showing the world how its done, not sinking to their level of fanaticism.

Barbara who in the republican party has said that they HATE african-americans,
the floor is yours you stated it now please back it up

The republicans who have falsely claimed voter fraud and tried to end early voting as a means to reduce minority voters from turning out. Denying any American their right to vote IS hateful.
So, since that was the only thing you commented on, does that means you don't mind all the rest? Your offended by my read on republicans being racist, but not on the rest of their suppression of peoples rights?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2012/10/27/colin-powells-former-chief-of-staff-gop-is-full-of-racists/

A little reading from the Washington Post.

This election isn't about Romney, it's about that pathetic loser we have in the White House now. He's been a fake all his life and the results show.

Patrick Brennan, your ignorant comments are obnoxious and inappropriate. I'm assuming you are of high school age, or younger??

Brian, Barbara, and John,
????????????????????????????????????

Can you say, Solyndra? At the rate of increase in national debt, we will have no means to do anything about climate change. Keynesian economics do not work!

yes Kathy citizens who work for a living that make up the republican base are in sharp contrast of the base that Obama panders too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKrp81SINkc

Yea Obama has MTV, Sesame Street, and The View as his base.

James Murphy, you are truly deluded by what your party has told you to think.

Then don't go....but if you did get all your teeth pulled, Obamacare will probably take care of that for you. :-)

SPAM from robo-poster, same poster as Joseph Robert and Beth Norquist - but now signs in from Ohio with different name but with same material
IGNORE

Jean is NOT a robo-poster, she has spoken freely many times, here she is just cutting and pasting. Call off the attack dogs, miss....geez....

John-
You honestly have been thinking you were reading a locals comments the last 2 weeks or so? This Jean Hoffman appeared, if you had been paying attention, after Mark Peterson and Joseph Robert were outed as the same person. As that was being done, "Jean" starting posting the exact same comments all over different states also, same person again as Beth Norquist. They are the same person, or group! All you had to do when all those names appeared was check their comment history. Even that Mark guy changed his name back to Joseph so all the postings that HAD been under the name Mark now say Joseph. And, that guy ADMITTED he was the same person, but claimed he and this Jean were a couple, and didn't know what she posted. Yeah, sure, they posted identical messages. And, yes, they are SPAM. They are posting in the states that are important for this election. If you think you are talking to your neighbor, you have been duped. They just signed in from Cuyahoga Falls.

John-
If you don't believe me, check for yourself. Go into this persons/groups comment history and look at about the last 4or 5 pages. You'll see the same comments going out to Ohio, Florida, Missouri, Iowa,...
I don't care if someone wants to debate an issue I disagree with. But these spammers and roboposters need to be outed for all of us to know who is posting propaganda on here. And, I'm not alone on here. I was curious how other states felt about this - and some are more upset than us, and the editors have taken action on this in Wisconsin. Comments there have been deleted. Its not a question of free speech either. This is a private business, and they can set up their own rules. So, those people crying free speech are free to create their own means of free speech - or continue to abuse our Patch in NE Ohio until our editors better monitor their articles or enforce policies.

@John

You may as well write off lyn. She is way over the edge on this campaign of hers. She needed a purpose in life and in this, she has found one. Of course, it doesn't matter to her that editors have come out in favor of the national discussions, she just has this idea in her head and this is all that you are likely to hear from her ever again.

I have listened to both candidates. Romney seems to love to deny that he said something. I am afraid that he will start a war and then change his mind.

melissa does that include obama at kent state and obama at ohio state, obama at bowling green,

James Murphy, again your posts are obnoxious and desperate. Why do you feel the need to name-call and insult people?? I find lately this is TYPICAL of conservative Repub's...

John McMillan,
"your posts are obnoxious and desperate" and "TYPICAL of Liberal Democrats".

If Al Gore would have won his home state (Tennessee) he would be president. The folks in the Boston area love handouts. Relax Obama is getting in for another four. It's simple..50% of America is on welfare or they work for the government. We are Rome.

Massachusetts was the only state that McGovern won in 72 it is the land of Kennedy and with the exception of Reagan has not voted republican in the last 50 years the question should actually be, how is it that Romney was able to become governor of such a democratic state

Tom M,
Massachusetts just recently elected Republican Senator Scott Brown.

For heaven's sake! Mass. voters routinely inflict Kennedys on the body politic, that says everything about them.

So, Jean, the election is already over in your head? Counting your chickens????

I would say jean pretty much nailed it sorry john there is always 2016 ....hillary in 16 (shes got my vote already)

awwww kathy needs to play spelling police, just TO make a point because I used TWO O's , well thats TOO sad

And James Murphy needs to play "thought Police".

SPAM
SPAMMER from out of state, Virginia.
Ignore.

Who is it this time? If you're going to play posting police, you should at least say WHO you're talking about??

I think it is apparent WHO...
The comment follows only one person, is it that hard to figure out???
At least I'm pointing out those doing this activity from both parties.

"I'm really a rather reasonable, rationale person..."

Now that is funny! How many regular readers here rolled their eyes when reading that comment? The person who is lurking the whole of Ohio Patch sites stalking profiles to point out when the person has a registration outside of Ohio...that is the reasonable and rational behavior that you are talking about?

You go girl!

;-)

Dan your comment means what ??? that they have to go to other states to find obama protesters

We only want the Messiah to speak. AmeriKa what a Kountry.

Beth = SPAMMER

Beth - ah, Rasmussen has Romney up 2 in OHIO today and Gallup has Romney still at 51......as a diehard sports fan, being behind does not make you poised for anything but defeat. After 4 years of suffering from all the campaigning and golfing, I am ready for some leadership

Reds Fan is correct! Rasmussen has Romney up by 2 points and Rasmussen has been the pollster closest on the last 4 presidential elections.

OBAMA WINS!!!

YEAH!!!!

LMAO! Suckah!

SW I have to agree. Instead of telling us the truth about the problems they blame each other as if one man did this all be himself. The congress both R and D spent and spent and borrowed and borrowed...some good, lots wasted. the challenge is what are we gonna do about it. Why would Obama scream and holler about the debt but then add to it?? It doesn't add up.

You nailed it SW. This isn't a Republican vs. Democratic issue. Rather, this is special interest money vs. the People. Politicians are slaves to campaign contributions. This hurts all Americans.

Murphy-Solon - another reason we need term limits and no benefits paid for our elected leaders for what should be a short term gig and not a career. If term limits are ok for President, it should be ok for all. I'm also getting a little tired being told what to do because there are more people in California and New York than here in the midwest. Who says they know what is best for all of us? It's not like either state has a track record of success to be telling us how to live.

Reds fan: concerning term limits, I wholeheartedly agree with you. This is the most intelligent thing I have heard on all these boards. I don't believe the founders of this country had career politicians in mind, and never will. They can serve their 2 terms, then go HOME and live under the policies they have enacted. NO lifelong benefits, NO voting themselves raises, etc.

@tgnocp38 - constitutional issues? Can you point me in the direction of where in the constitution committee appointments are discussed. Sounds like an excuse for someone to remain in power. Thanks

alan since you need to lighten up on the racist card here is a link for you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHCqz-J51IU&feature=related

Watts -
Go back to California. Aren't you tired of posting all over the country on different Patch sites?

Watts the time poll,PPP poll and survey USA is included in the RCP average

time used a 30% democratic oversampling over republicans to get the +5
D 273
R 206
I 215
http://timeswampland.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/timepoll.pdf

also included is survey usa which needed a +7 oversampling to get a +3
R 32%
D 39%
I 25%
http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=86d85b21-8b9a-4661-99ab-3b88b2335cf2

now PPP survey needs a +8 oversampling of democrats to claim a +4

Democrat 43%
Republican 35%
Independent/Other 21%

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_OH_1028.pdf

tom nice answer to watts

Maybe that is a nice answer, if you don't understand the realities of how many more registered Democrats there are to Republicans. There are 72 million Democrats and 55 million Republicans. You do realize that there are actual mathematical reasons for this type of over sampling and that you aren't actually unveiling any sort of conspiracy theory, as I am sure that it was presented to you through talk radio or whatever fringe site that your found this "fascinating" information.

Watts did you just pull those numbers out of the air
As of 2010, Gallup polling found that 31% of Americans identified as Democrats (tying a 22-year low), 29% as Republicans, and 38% as independents in ohio it is 37R and 36D

One of the funniest commercials that I have seen is the recent one running in CT, where the Republican McMahon is so desperate for votes, that she is trying to hitch her wagon and co-brand herself now with Obama, given that he seems to be the easy winner. Check this out...

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/22/1148360/-McMahon-tries-to-tie-herself-to-Obama-in-new-ad

Ed I think thats the guy who paid for the message out of his own pocket

Ed - At least it will be over soon. For now, I try to tune it out. But the phone will not stop ringing today!!!

Watts - Go back to California.

Now lyn, here you go again intentionally misrepresenting me. Do you remember the conversation that we had in regards to the racially coded posts that were being used to target Ohio voters? I have never had an issue with an intelectual discussion of ideas and you are fully aware of that. But instead, you would rather engage in at this level, so I know exactly where your cognitive limitations are, so that is how you and I engage on here. You set that tone and I am still waiting to see if you will show even the slightest bit of integrity for the fact that you continue to intentionally lie and misrepresent me on here.

May I make a recommendation?

Don't drink and post.

Now that is funny. It is nice to see that some people in Ohio have a personality.

How appropriate that your post immediately follows Kaye's regarding name calling...only for you to do exactly that.

Now get off my lawn.

Yeah, that big hairy thing.

He grunts all the time.

according to the most recent playbook you are to blame Bain Capital

If I could, I'd get on my broom and ride out of here - this wind is giving me the willies.

Thanks Murph, it was the Sheila Bair book I was thinking of.

So this type of aid would NOT be called "socialism"...I guess?? Nice to see the cooperation that is actually needed.

Murph-
Thanks, from your "friend" across the aisle - lyn

Yes, I think I now remember. And I'm also an independent, currently leaning Rep. I think we agreed on Huntsman and Hillary? The next election might be much better - better choices, hopefully.

Hopefully the Tea Party will soon disappear, Romney or Obama.

Murph-
Did you catch my "slip"? That I still think Obama will win?

why dont you two get a room

Oops, sorry, tom. I'm still planning on keeping OUR breakfast date at Jennifer's ;-)

When I said maybe our choices will be better next time... so, that means I don't think Romney will be there to try for another 4 years.
Yeah, Kantors book is also on my reading list. They say his book shows the bad in both sides, how both have contributed to where it is now. But, I get a kick out of how some pick and choose parts of his book to substantiate there point. Both sides were to blame. But, as I understand it, he mainly concentrated on just the 2010-12 years - but there was still plenty on the both parties there.

Snack time!

Oh my, that slovak/polish whatever guy is talking in that ad again.

I'm back for a correction - I meant Draper's book, not Kantors...duh...

Not sure what is going on with the Patch - or maybe its my computer. I'm not getting all the comments. But I was finally able to see your reply to the blog in your comment history, not on the blog though - so I'll respond here.
I agree with most of what you said ..but
-yes, women can be tougher on each other, but the blog author writes an unusual amount of blogs about the same subject. I know some women have a hard time getting past being childless, but at some time they do need to come to grips with it and to do it continually on a public forum is probably not the right place. At least, that is how I have read the authors blogs - she is sometimes hard to follow where she is going.
-also, the writer to Dear Abby said "After 2 years of marriage, I finally brought up the subject. Edgar then informed me..." You have to wonder why there was no discussion of this for 2 years and just how much was discussed before marriage. He may have become comfortable with life as it became and for 2 years not 1 word about kids, so he may have assumed that was her change of heart also. I do think he probably said what he either felt at the time or he thought she wanted to hear. And now the poor wife is suffering the consequences.

I get it - You looked in the mirror yesterday and you saw Beth, the day before you saw Jean... and today you see Joseph!!!!